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    On the bowls versus ice-cream debate

    Say I said to you that bowls weren't ice-cream. You'd look at me strangely, wouldn't you? You'd probably point out that ice-cream is a thing you put in bowls and bowls are things that contain other things, including ice-cream, and that, as such, comparing bowls and ice-cream is ludicrous. You'd probably point out that while ice-cream can be served in cones or on a stick, you could put it in whatever the hell you like and it'd still be ice-cream.

    Say I then suggested that it's important to state that bowls don't contain ice-cream because some people are arguing that anything in a bowl counts as ice-cream and that's clearly not true. Again, your growing sneer of derision would fall even more heavily upon me as you point out that no one in their right mind thinks that anything in a bowl counts as ice-cream, and that this is a straw-man position that doesn't exist. You might suggest that in rebutting this non-existent position, I was being a bit like a drunk person shouting at a wall. You might point out that in failing to realise that some things in bowls can patently be ice cream, I have just failed Logic 101.

    Say I then told you that I had been having this debate about bowls and ice-cream for years now with no resolution in sight. You'd probably think that I was completely mental for devoting so much energy to such a non-question.

    All this sounds obvious.

    And yet I am constantly forced to read retrograde bollocks like this.

    • 14 April 2010
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    about 2 years ago Alice Bell liked this post.
    about 2 years ago Ed Yong liked this post.
    about 2 years ago Alice Bell responded:
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    I'm lactose intolerant.

    I thought you were being all noble and ignoring her. But I see she's getting the posterous treatment instead.

    It's a bit perfect though, so you know. Been banging my head against a similar brick wall in academic context all afternoon and needed to read something neat like this. Seriously: Thank you.

    about 2 years ago Ed Yong responded:
    Ed Yong
    I was planning on ignoring it but I'm in Australia, I've had three days of jet lag, it's 6.30 in the morning, I've been up since 3.30 and I'm grumpy and pissed off. So I opted for catharsis instead.

    Also I'm loving the fact that Posterous is rapidly becoming my haven for "bitter, bitter snark that's too long for Twitter".

    about 2 years ago Gammidgy (Twitter) responded:
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    Fox claims to know the difference between journalism and blogging, even though she clearly knows not a jot. She is the respectable face of science media and yet she happily promotes bogus thinking.
    about 2 years ago eurogene (Twitter) responded:
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    for what it's worth - the Webster definition:
    Main Entry: jour·nal·ism
    Pronunciation: \ˈjər-nə-ˌli-zəm\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1828

    1 a : the collection and editing of news for presentation through the media b : the public press c : an academic study concerned with the collection and editing of news or the management of a news medium
    2 a : writing designed for publication in a newspaper or magazine b : writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation c : writing designed to appeal to current popular taste or public interest

    Seems like a storm in an ice-cream bowl

    about 2 years ago kzelnio (Twitter) responded:
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    I'm still confused on she blogged about how blogging is not
    over 1 year ago sherlyn2010 responded:
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    Ice cream has been a the favorite treat that comes in many varieties. Along with the development of new the flavors and better quality, ice cream truck businesses grew along. If you've the been thinking of having your own ice cream truck business, you're probably the just imagining the mouthwatering delights.

    ice cream machines

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